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Teckos Pech
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Posted - 2016.10.23 04:11:48 -
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PopeUrban wrote:Saying that an in-game gambling system is of dubious legality is a slippery slope. At that point you can make the argument that converting PLEX to ISK for PvE ships is gambling, since the drop tables are all RNG.
FYI, a randomization device does not a game of chance make.
Games of skill can also rely on randomization devices. So rating is really more a game of "skill" in that once you know what you are doing you can always "win".
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Teckos Pech
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Posted - 2016.10.23 04:12:58 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Hay, how about we keep internet spaceships about spaceships and gambling about gambling yeah?
Issue #1 to much of ISK and inflation% is behind the ISK income. Issue#n pilots don't know how to preperly use/where to invest their ISKies So gambling is easy to through money into with some chances of returns vs. activities required hours of active participation etc.
There really much in terms of investing ISK in the game. Capital markets in the game are extremely stunted.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Teckos Pech
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Posted - 2016.10.25 01:27:17 -
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PopeUrban wrote:
Loot drops are gambling with an extra couple of buttons.
No.
Did you wager anything? No? Then not gambling. Are the results completely dependent on the RNG or also on your knowledge and understanding of the game? If yes, then quite possibly game of skill.
Quote:Point here is that, from a legal standpoint, ducking and running because of stuff like the CSGO scandal doesn't seem to be preventing valve or blizzard from selling RNG loot boxes.
Allowing players to profit, directly, with actual money, is the legal issue here. Not having a game of chance. Sure, RMT was technically illegal before, but the steps taken these days are being taken BECAUSE of an RMT grey market, not because gambling fake money for fake goods was legally problematic.
Games of chance are not strictly the problem and it is a bit unfortunate CCP used that language.
Gambling is a game of chance.
Games of chance may or may not be gambling.
Since games of chance are rarely illegal using the broader category may result in things that are not a major problem being bannable offenses...but on the other hand using the broader language will ensure no edge cases sneak by and bite CCP on the buttocks.
Quote:It has nothing do do with the act of gambling/games of chance and everything to do with being able to convert fake currency in to real currency.
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Somer and IWI were gambling sites. It only makes sense they be shut down. Gambling as one of a number of activites within EVE itself is not remotely the same from a legal or even ethical standpoint simply because it isn't the core focus of the simulation, just like the RNG that controls the drop rate of an officer module isn't the core focus of the activity of ratting.
You appear to be contradicting yourself here...
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Teckos Pech
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Posted - 2016.10.25 01:28:05 -
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Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Now is not the time to be seen with a broom ,wearing a pointy hat.
But... But... My Halloween costume...  Meh... Maybe I'll try a creepy clown instead.  --Gadget
You'll scare us Americans.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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